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« Thread Started on Feb 17, 2012, 10:22am »

So, as promised, lessons to learn my translation of Narayani. Sorry about no audio file, but I'm not that high-tech.

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Lesson 1.1 - Hello and Goodbye


Speaker 1: Ajwa amane.
Speaker 2: Ajwa amane.
S1: Come tan?
S2: Tas buno. Ya come tan?
S1: Tas nę buno. Ava ajwa.
S2: Ava ajwa.

S1: Ajwa!
Speaker 3: Ajwa!
S1: Come vadi?
S3: Vadi buno. Ya amane de?
S1: Buno iti. Ajwa!
S3: Ajwa!


Let us analyse the above conversation, beginning with the formal first conversation.

Ajwa amane is a formal way of saying hello. Literally, 'Joy to you'; ajwa means joy, amane, to you. Typically, this is used for a stranger, or someone with a different social status to yourself. This is a basic phrase, so we need not linger on it.

Come tan? means How are you? Come is a question word, and means How?. It can be used in exactly the same way as we use it in English. Tan is a form of the verb ti, which means to be. As you can probably guess, it means you are. There is no need to have a seperate word for 'you', as it is all included within the verb.

Tas buno is a generic positive response. It means I am well. Tas, as can be guessed, is also a form of ti, meaning I am. Again, 'I' does not require a seperate word. Buno, in this context, means well, as in being in good health. It can also be translated as good, as in 'This is a good item', or well as in 'This was well made'.

Ya come tan? means And how are you? The only new word here is ya meaning and. Normally, in English, and indeed in other European languages, we would ask 'And you?' here, as the full question is implied. However, this cannot be done in Narayani, since no such word for 'you' exists in Narayani, as it is coded directly into a verb.

Tas nę buno is a generic negative response. Buno and tas you know, and you can work out. This word is a negating word meaning not

Finally, ava ajwa. This is a formal farewell. Literally, 'have joy'. Ava is the command form of avi meaning to have, and ajwa you know.

Once more, the conversation.

S1: Ajwa amane. ~ Hello.
S2: Ajwa amane. ~ Hello.
S1: Come tan? ~ How are you?
S2: Tas buno. Ya come tan? ~ I am fine. You?
S1: Tas nę buno. Ava ajwa. ~ I am not fine. Goodbye.
S2: Ava ajwa. ~ Goodbye.


Next, the informal second conversation.

Here they are greeting each other by saying Ajwa! This works out as Hi!
Next, instead of asking Come tan?, the speaker asks Come vadi? This is similar to the German 'Wie geht's?', meaning How goes it?, to which a response of Vadi buno is issued, meaning It goes well.

Ya amane de requires closer attention. Ya is a word you know, meaning and. Amane de is similar to amane. De means for, and when amane is used with a preposition, the preposition replaces to in the translation, so we have for you. Putting all that together, the question is And for you? This is the informal version of Ya come tan?

Iti means too or as well. Therfore, buno iti means good too.

Once again, we have ajwa, but now it is being used as a farewell, so it is translated as bye.

That is how to have a basic conversation informally, and you would use this with a close friend, or someone you know within your social class.

And now, the conversation again.

S1: Ajwa! ~ Hi!
Speaker 3: Ajwa! ~ Hi!
S1: Come vadi? ~ How're you? (Lit. How goes it?)
S3: Vadi buno. Ya amane de? ~ I'm good. And you? (Lit. It goes well. And for you?)
S1: Buno iti. Ajwa! ~ Good too. Bye!
S3: Ajwa! ~ Bye!


Next time, introducing yourself.
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« Reply #1 on Feb 17, 2012, 11:37am »

Hey you have an extra word in your first convo. Your 3rd to last line is "ya aman" instead of "ya come tan?"

Does 'aman' mean anything?
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« Reply #2 on Feb 17, 2012, 11:44am »

Oops. Mistake. That must've crept in because I changed my mind halfway through writing the lesson as to how that bit would work. *facepalms* And aman will be introduced later.

EDIT: Fixed.

EDIT: Redone the lesson so that aman is in lesson 1.1. However, you can find most words in my dictionary.
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« Reply #3 on Feb 17, 2012, 1:44pm »

;) Gotcha covered. I'm just assuming Aman is realted to Amane
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« Reply #4 on Feb 17, 2012, 2:46pm »

Indeed. ;)
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« Reply #5 on Feb 17, 2012, 3:36pm »

Lesson 1.2 - Introductions


Speaker 1: Ajwa amane.
Speaker 2: Ajwa amane.
S1: Coi tan?
S2: Tas nę naręyani; tas D'ni. Tas noma Etrus. Ya coe ta ami nom?
S1: Mi nom ta Savidro. Tas Naręyani. Ava ajwa, Etrus.
S2: Ava ajwa, Savidro.

In the previous lesson, we covered greeting someone, asking how they are, and saying your farewells, both formally and informally. In this lesson, we will look at how to introduce yourself.

Look at the conversation. The two people greet each other formally, and then the first speaker asks Coi tan? Tan you know, and coi means who?. Therefore he is asking the second speaker who he is. Then he responds with a lengthy answer.

Tas nę Naręyani means I am not a Narayani. Tas and you know, and Naręyani is very obvious.

The next thing he says is Tas noma Etrus. This means I am called Atrus. Tas noma is a construction you shall meet during Lesson 3, and it is derived from the verb nomi, to name. Etrus is of course the Narayani spelling of Atrus, the man we all know as the writer of Narayan.

Finally, he asks Ya coe ta ami nom? This means And what is your name? New words here are coe, what, ta, is, ami, your, and nom, name.

The first speaker responds by saying Mi nom ta Savidro. Mi means my, and is used only with things that you actually possess, Nom and ta you have just learnt, and Savidro is the Narayani spelling of... you guessed it, Saavedro.

Tas Naręyani is of course I am a Narayani.

Finally, Saavedro and Atrus part by saying ava ajwa to each other.

Once more, the conversation is as follows.

Speaker 1: Ajwa amane. ~ Greetings (Lit. Joy to you)
Speaker 2: Ajwa amane. ~ '' '' '' '' ''
S1: Coi tan? ~ Who are you?
S2: Tas nę Naręyani; tas D'ni. Tas noma Etrus. Ya coe ta ami nom? ~ I am not a Narayani; I am a D'ni. I am called Atrus. And what is your name?
S1: Mi nom ta Savidro. Tas Naręyani. Ava ajwa, Etrus. ~ My name is Saavedro. I am Narayani. Farewell, Atrus (Lit. Have joy)
S2: Ava ajwa, Savidro. ~ Farewell, Saavedro. " " "


Next time, the alphabet and spelling aloud.
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« Reply #6 on Feb 18, 2012, 5:35am »

Lesson 1.3 - The Alphabet, and Spelling Aloud


This lesson will come in two parts. Firstly, we will learn how to write Narayani. Secondly, we will learn the names of the letters, and how to spell words in Narayani. Please note that all material covered in this lesson is highly susceptible to change.


I am sorry, but this part of the Weave has not yet been completed.



The names of the letters in the order give above are as follows: a, ba, ši, da, e, fi, ga, he, i, ji, ca, al, am, an, o, pa, ar, si, ta, u, vi, we, xe, ę, ye, zi.

To spell a word, such as locusani, you simply say the names of each letter. So, for our example, it would be: al, o, ca, u, si, a, an, i. Very simple. My name would be: da, al, o, ar, da, o, fi, ta, i, am, e. Saavedro would be spelt: si, a, vi, i, da, ar, o.

Now you can write, and spell aloud, any Narayani word.


Next time, the basics of verbs with to be and to have.
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« Reply #7 on Feb 26, 2012, 7:35pm »

Lesson 1.4 - The Basics of Verbs


In this lesson, we will go over the basic usage of verbs, using the verbs to be and to have. The lesson will be rather brief, due to the amount of space required to discuss applying the 6 grammaical persons to a verb, albeit that there are two classes of verb to be studied.

Firstly, we will look at polysyllabic verbs. These are verbs such as degrasi, yamani, and avi, the last of which will be looked at. This is the main family of verbs, and could be termed 'regular verbs' for want of a better term. Observe the pattern in the table below.

to haveNarayaniEnglish
Infinitiveavito have
1st Sing.avisI have
2nd Sing.avinthou hast
3rd Sing.avihe has
1st Pluralavisewe have
2nd Pluralavineyou have
3rd Pluralavethey have


The stem of the verb can be found by removing the -i from the infinitive form, and from the stem, you can conjugate each of the 6 persons by adding on the correct ending.
Next are the conjugations of monosyllabic verbs, such as si, di and ti, and again, the last of these shall be used. These are a small family of verbs with a different set of endings, and so, shall be given the table below.

to beNarayaniEnglish
Infinitivetito be
1st Sing.tasI am
2nd Sing.tanthou art
3rd Sing.tahe is
1st Pluraltasewe are
2nd Pluraltaneyou are
3rd Pluraltethey are


Observe how the 'i' is mutated to an 'a' here in all but the infinitive. This is what makes these verbs different to the other verbs. Thus concludes this brief lesson.

Next time, numbers.
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« Reply #8 on Feb 26, 2012, 8:16pm »

Lesson 1.5 - Numbers


In this lesson, we shall go over the Narayani number system. However, we shall only go over the names of the numbers, as Laroon's written number system bears no flaws for the purposes of these lessons. Study the picture well: http://narayani.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=tradition&action=display&thread=26

Next the names of the numbers. Firstly, 1 through 5.

1 ~ o
2 ~ du
3 ~ ta
4 ~ cę
5 ~ si

From here on, it ceases to be this simple. As with the written numbers, 6 through 9 are made by combining 5 with the numbers 1 through 4. 10 is a new syallable.

6 ~ si-o
7 ~ si-u
8 ~ si-a
9 ~ si-ę
10 ~ de

Numbers 11 through 19 are made by combining 10 with 1 through 9. 20 is made by placing 2 before 10.

11 ~ de-o
12 ~ dedu
13 ~ deta
14 ~ decę
15 ~ desi
16 ~ desi-o
17 ~ desi-u
18 ~ desi-a
19 ~ desi-ę
20 ~ dude

Multiples of 10 up to 100 are made in a similar manner to 20, and numbers in between are constructed identically to 11 through 19.

30 ~ tade
40 ~ cęde
50 ~ side
60 ~ si-ode
70 ~ si-ude
80 ~ si-ade
90 ~ si-ęde
100 ~ ce

Multiples of 100 follow the same pattern as multiples of 10. The next unique numbers are 1000, 1000000, and powers of 1000000.

1000 ~ me
1 million ~ ne
1 billion* ~ be
1 trillion** ~ te

To obtain other powers of 10, simply arrange powers of 10 as we do in English. For example, 100000 million is cemene. The largest number that can be written with what you have here, 1 quadrillion*** minus 1, would be written as si-ęcesi-ędesi-ęmesi-ęcesi-ędesi-ęte, si-ęcesi-ędesi-ęmesi-ęcesi-ędesi-ębe, si-ęcesi-ędesi-ęmesi-ęcesi-ędesi-ęne, si-ęcesi-ędesi-ęmesi-ęcesi-ędesi-ę. In Hindu-Arabic numberals, this is 999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999.

Next time, revision of what you have learned so far, plus more vocabulary.

*1 billion here means 1,000,000,000,000
**1 trillion here means 1,000,000,000,000,000,000
***1 quadrillion here means 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
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Lesson 1.6 - End of Unit Test


So far, we have gone through 5 lessons and covered quite a lot of information. This lesson will serve to test you on your knowledge, so please do not look at any prior material whilst working through this lesson, else you will not know if you have learnt it or not. You will be given a series of questions. Answer as many as you can, then check the answers in the next post. Scores will be given as well. In all questions, write Atrus for Etrus, and Saavedro for Savidro.


Etrus: Ajwa amane!
Savidro: Ajwa amane!
Etrus: Coe ta ami nom?
Savidro: Mi nom ta Savidro. Ya coi tan?
Etrus: Tas Etrus. E, ta, ar, u, si.
Savidro: Ami nom ta nę Naręyani.
Etrus: Ta nę. Tas D'ni. Tan Naręyani?
Savidro: Tas.
Etrus: Come tan?
Savidro: Tas buno. Ya come tan?
Etrus: Tas buno iti. Ava ajwa, Savidro!
Savidro: Ava ajwa, Etrus!


Q1. Translate the first question asked into English.

Q2. How is the question answered? Write both the Narayani and the English.

Q3. How does Atrus introduce himself? Give your answer in English.

Q4. What question does Saavedro ask after saying, 'My name is Saavedro'?

Q5. What comment does Saavedro make on Atrus' name?

Q6. Spell out Saavedro's name in Narayani.

Q7. Write the length of Saavedro's name in Narayani, in word form.
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« Reply #10 on Mar 4, 2012, 10:29pm »

WARNING!!! DO NOT READ UNLESS YOU HAVE ANSWERS TO ALL SEVEN QUESTIONS ABOVE!!!

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THIS IS YOUR FINAL WARNING!!!

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A1. What is your name? (1)

A2. Mi nom ta Savidro. (1) My name is Saavedro. (1)

A3. I am Atrus. (1) E, t, r, u, s. (1)

A4. And who are you? (1)

A5. "Your name is not Narayani" (1)

A6. Si, a, vi, i, da, ar, o. (2)

A7. Siu/Si-u (1)

Scores: 0 - 5 ~ Shameful. Go over the lessons again.
6 - 8 ~ Good. You may proceed, but you may want to go over this unit again...
9/10 ~ Excellent! You have learnt this unit well!
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